The da Vinci's All You Can Make Buffet

[Metropolis Man]

Thanks, Schipperke.

Metro, can clarify this to match the Tournament Schedule if what Schipperke says is correct?

Yeah, Pam — Culinary career is definitely okay. I'll edit the rule set for clarity.

Wouldn't this drastically effect your starting, and final, household funds? I mean if you bought a big house not only would you start out with less money but you'd also have to pay higher bills throughout the challenge.

Well, definitely. That's all part of the strategy. I have no intentions of forcing everyone to buy the same house at the beginning. That's just something you need to think about.

[MomOfMany]

This one sounds difficult but I am up for the challenge. I'm in! Now to finish all the others some of which I haven't even started yet. 

[Metropolis Man]

@momofmany — you're in and good luck.

After receiving a PM from Twinmum I edited the following rule:

• Clarification: It's Week 4, Day 7, 11: 59 PM. You're done with painting and have to put down the brush. But, you've finished 2 more paintings after the consignment store closed. Don't worry — you can still sell those paintings and any other "da Vinci" skill items at any time via the consignment store or inventory.

So, the bottom line is — you can only engage in one of three da Vinci skills for exactly 4 weeks, hammering out as much as you can in the time period. But, the consignment store has no restrictions. You can take any items there at any time.

[Joria]

Just installed my Ambitions so it's going to be a challenge to learn the new things it brought.  Double challenge then but I'm game.  Count me in please. *walks off mumbling something about being a glutton for punishment*

Edit:  It's hours later.  The door bell rings. 
"Buon giorno!  Let me introduce myself and my charming wife.  I am Leonidas daVincenzo and this is my wife, Mona Lisa.  We just moved in so we'll be your new neighbors.  Mona is an excellente, ah, how you say?  Yes!  Cook.  She is a great cook!  Her pasta primavera is, *smacks lips and kisses fingers*, heavenly to say the least.  Me, I tinker around the house, an artiste.  You understand?  I might make a lot of noise sometimes making things so perdona me if I disturb.  Well, ciao.  Must be back at the work.  I have this great urge to be famoso and very, very, uhhh, rich.  Yes, rich.  That is the word.  My great ancestor, Leonardo, I follow in his footsteps.  We see how good I do, eh?"

Waves good bye at the charming, but rather strange, couple. 

[Joria]

For purposes of clarification:  If your Sim is a klepto, anything said person steals can't count toward total wealth, whether it's sold or kept.  Right?

If your Culinary Sim does gardening he/she can't sell the produce or seeds for profit toward the total wealth.  Right?  And same would go for fish?

Total wealth is just cash on hand after selling all paintings and sculptures and gadgets and getting any funds from a career in cooking, inventing, etc.?  Value of any paintings or other creations left wouldn't count and neither would the value of the house and lot.  Right?

Do you have to sell via the Consignment shop or can you just sell the way you would if you didn't have Ambitions?  You know, drag it or say "sell it". 

[Twinmum]

Aw man, a week to go before I can jump into this one    I have one more set of tests to run my practice couple through then I think I have a solid strategy (think being the operative word there)

Norma

[Metropolis Man]

For purposes of clarification:  If your Sim is a klepto, anything said person steals can't count toward total wealth, whether it's sold or kept.  Right?

If your Culinary Sim does gardening he/she can't sell the produce or seeds for profit toward the total wealth.  Right?  And same would go for fish?

Yes to everything above.

Total wealth is just cash on hand after selling all paintings and sculptures and gadgets and getting any funds from a career in cooking, inventing, etc.?  Value of any paintings or other creations left wouldn't count and neither would the value of the house and lot.  Right?

Right.

Do you have to sell via the Consignment shop or can you just sell the way you would if you didn't have Ambitions?  You know, drag it or say "sell it".  

That's fine if you don't want to use the consignment shop. There's nothing in the rules forcing you to do so.

[Archer0]

Sign me up for this one too, please.

[samoht04]

Even though I always say this - I will finish this challenge!  

AKA - I am in! 

[ClayMask]

I'm in for this challenge.  I was wondering whether the sim doing the inventing, scuplting, etc. has to be the one to bring the goods to the consignment shop, or can the other sim bring them?

[Metropolis Man]

I'm in for this challenge.  I was wondering whether the sim doing the inventing, scuplting, etc. has to be the one to bring the goods to the consignment shop, or can the other sim bring them?

That's something you can discover easily enough in some quick testing. Good luck in the event.

[NancyJ]

I think he was asking if it was allowed, not whether it was possible/advisable.

[Metropolis Man]

Ah, just woke up. Still a little foggy.  If that's the case ClayMask, there's no restrictions on who takes items to the consignment shop.

[samoht04]

I was just about to come and ask the same question, good thing it was already here!  Now to go and hatch my evil plan... 

[Ricker]

Sign me up for this one.  As soon as I finish Wishmaster, I'll get going on this.

[ClayMask]

During my playtesting, I thought of two opportunity-related questions I'd like to ask.  

1.  In the opportunity "borrowing ingredients," the sim is asked to bring a tomato in exchange for cooking skill, improved relationship, and simoleans.  Is this an allowable cooking opportunity since cooking skill is part of the reward, or not allowed since you don't actually have to cook anything?  

2.  Is the artist sim allowed to turn in something he made during an earlier week for an opportunity, such as turning in a sculpture during inventing weeks that was made during sculpting weeks?

[Metropolis Man]

During my playtesting, I thought of two opportunity-related questions I'd like to ask.  

1.  In the opportunity "borrowing ingredients," the sim is asked to bring a tomato in exchange for cooking skill, improved relationship, and simoleans.  Is this an allowable cooking opportunity since cooking skill is part of the reward, or not allowed since you don't actually have to cook anything?

That opportunity is fine. It's still only going to be available to your cooking Sim and not your da Vinci, so that's a good thing.  

2.  Is the artist sim allowed to turn in something he made during an earlier week for an opportunity, such as turning in a sculpture during inventing weeks that was made during sculpting weeks?

Yes, I clarified this a couple days ago — the consignment store basically has no limitations (as well as anything you'd want to sell via inventory). The limitation is strictly on what skill you can engage in (only one skill allowed for four weeks).

[Twinmum]

Metro, I think Claymask meant if say a painter finishes up his 4 weeks and becomes a sculptor then gets an opportunity to say deliver a masterpiece painting to a certain sim, is that allowed if he has the painting already done but not yet sold, can he give that painting to the sim for the cash reward.

Norma

[Metropolis Man]

Oh, right. Thanks, Norma. Yeah, that's okay too. As long as the painter moved on to sculpting at the correct time and is now solely doing a different activity (sculpting), then he can still take painting opportunities if he can complete them without actually painting.

[cndneh]

Sign me up for this one!   I love the wishmaster challenge, and want to try my hand at this one as well!

[Schipperke]

I need to have something clarified as it has been on my mind since I read Metro's answer to this post:

For purposes of clarification:  If your Sim is a klepto, anything said person steals can't count toward total wealth, whether it's sold or kept.  Right?

Metro, you answered yes to this.  But if your sim steals something and sells it, that money will just go into household funds, same as it would if we sold our old furniture, which isn't allowed.  My understanding of the rules is that we can't sell anything - no stolen items, no insects, rocks, old furniture, salvaged items, no Nothing.  Right?  (even though gramatically incorrect  )

[Archer0]

You could keep a running total of all the non da Vinci items you sell, and then subtract that amount from your simolean total at the end, but why make extra work for yourself?  I would just delete the item or store it in inventory, if I was going to play the save file after the challenge time was up.

[Schipperke]

You could keep a running total of all the non da Vinci items you sell, and then subtract that amount from your simolean total at the end, but why make extra work for yourself?  I would just delete the item or store it in inventory, if I was going to play the save file after the challenge time was up.

How would you delete an item without getting the money for it?

[Archer0]

Isn't there an option in buy mode to delete an object instead of selling?

[Metropolis Man]

I need to have something clarified as it has been on my mind since I read Metro's answer to this post:

For purposes of clarification:  If your Sim is a klepto, anything said person steals can't count toward total wealth, whether it's sold or kept.  Right?

Metro, you answered yes to this.  But if your sim steals something and sells it, that money will just go into household funds, same as it would if we sold our old furniture, which isn't allowed.  My understanding of the rules is that we can't sell anything - no stolen items, no insects, rocks, old furniture, salvaged items, no Nothing.  Right?  (even though gramatically incorrect  )

Yeah, pretty much that's correct. The rules specifically lay out that the only sources of adding to Household Funds are painting, sculpting, inventing and cooking/culinary career. Selling stolen objects does not fit into those categories. Stealing something to keep and add value to your lot would be illegal because the item would not have been "made" from the da Vinci skills.