Author Topic: Baby Boomer III: How Big is Your Family Tree? (Read 42671 times)

Metropolis Man · « **on:** March 06, 2011, 02:01:41 PM »

Baby Boomer III: How Big is Your Family Tree?

Goal
Start with 2 Married Young Adult Sims and try and have as many children as possible before the mom reaches Elder stage. In a new twist with this year’s event, you can age a child up with a cake as soon as they attain key goals for a given stage.

General Challenge Rules
The General Challenge Rules always apply. If applicable, exceptions will be noted below.

Specific Challenge Rules

Create 2 Young Adult Sims.
Your starting two Sims are the only Sims allowed to Try For Baby.
Your starting two Sims must always live together.
Your starting two Sims cannot be turned into vampires.
No adoption.
No Time Machine.
Only offspring can be added to the Household.
No vacations.
No babysitters.
No butlers.
No Simbots.
Anything that has a potential to lengthen the mom’s pre-Elder lifespan — makeovers, eating life fruit, drinking life fruit drinks, getting a tattoo, eating Ambrosia — all are banned for the mom.
No intentional killing of any Sims.
If a mom had a very happy pregnancy resulting in your picking two traits for the baby you may age the baby up to Toddler when there are 3 days left in the Baby stage.
If a Toddler, Child, or Teen has attained all goals for their life stage (see goals directly below) you are free to use a cake to age them up at that point. All requirements must be in place at the time you want to use the cake.
Household members can only move out upon reaching Young Adult stage. And once a Sim has been moved out, they cannot be moved back in.
As always, no cheating, but if you do encounter the Dropped Traits bug with a Sim, then you are free to use testingcheats to replace the missing trait.
This challenge concludes when the mother reaches Elder stage.

Pregnancy/Baby Stage Goal:
• If mom's pregnancy is a very good one and you are allowed to pick two traits at birth for the baby, you may age the baby up to Toddler when there are 3 days left of the Baby Stage.

Toddler Stage Goals:
• Learn all 3 Toddler skills (Walking, Talking, Potty Training).

Child Stage Goals:
• Honor Roll for 3 Consecutive Days
• 1 Best Friend (cannot be a Household member or Imaginary Friend and no Child can have the same Best Friend as another Child)

Teen Stage Goals:
• Honor Roll for 3 Consecutive Days
• 1 Romantic Interest (cannot be an Imaginary Friend and no Teen can have the same Romantic Interest as another Teen)
• Receive 2 promotions at a part-time job (hit level #3)

Scoring
Three cheers for very simple scoring this time around — open up the Simology tab and click on Family Tree. Count the total number of Sims directly under your original pair—so it's only their children and not grandchildren or spouses if they ended up marrying after getting the boot. Award yourself the following:

Sims who have moved out = 3 points (if a Social Worker removes any household member, that member gets 0 points)
Sims in the Household who achieved their LTW (all LTW of final Household members must be unique) = 2 points
Sims in the Household who did not attain their LTW = 1 point

Total — Again, it's very simple scoring with only one scoring component in this event. Let’s go through an example:

Your mother hits the Elder stage. It’s now time to stop. Pause the game and open up the Simology tab. Count the total number of Sims right under your original pair. Let’s say it’s 20 and there are 5 children remaining in the Household when your mother hits Elder status. So, it’s easy to figure out how many Sims you moved out:

20 - 5 = 15 Sims moved out. 15 X 3 points each = 45 points.

Now take a look at your remaining Household members and write down how many of the 7 (5 children + your starting pair) attained their Lifetime Wish. Let’s say 4 of the 7 completed their LTW:

4 Household members attained LTW X 2 points each = 8 points
3 Household members did not attain LTW X 1 point each = 3 points

45 + 8 + 3 = 56 points.

To make things even easier, Gheez has pulled through once again and designed a scoring sheet for this event. Great work, Gheez —

GoogleDocs Spreadsheet

Printable pdf Sheet

OpenOffice Spreadsheet

Helpful Guide Articles
Sims 3 Parenting Guide

This Event is Closed

So, get ready to Try For Baby. Often!

Final Leaderboard

Player	Total
sarcasticsuperherogirl	88
LenaLJ	83
GlazeyLady	80
ClayMask	78
ratchie	77
Veldmuisie	74
Agneza	73
annieb	68
Sims3Clacla123	68
daddad111	67
NancyJ	67
Alexandria_	66
Georgia.xx	65
rahmbr	65
Anjielicka	64
alyssa.cole	64
Metropolis Man	63
xakzen	62
crth	62
mtglady	60
BellaClo	60
tjsmetana	59
tiffieleigh	59
sklemas	58
bigbrowneyes123	58
cathyknits	53
TheCub	52
Paula2424	49
bored1	48
themuffinman406	47
cndneh	47
sdhoey	47
Nikitachi	46
Thoughtfairy	46
ladydragon76	46
Anhysbys	46
Twinmum	46
Mocha Java	46
nzgirl	46
Jinx13	46
Meerkat77	45
Margerita	45
Ferretmania	45
Lenka	44
ElizaDaye	42
Lynley1248	41
january_embers	40
CarlaluvsSims	39
CynKuy	39
kris1079	38
simsally	37
mysticmirror	34
Pam	33
ClumsyMum	31
MarianT	31
momofmany	28
Noshien	28
mammabec	26
fluffyj00	26
Kaibilly	21
smastbrook	20
icrawbeans	15
Gogowars329	8
CSquared2	8
Seabody	7
Dusty_Monk	4

Schipperke · « **Reply #1 on:** March 06, 2011, 02:32:49 PM »

This sounds very interesting! I predict a very large turnout for this event. One question: are vampires allowed in the family tree?

sdhoey · « **Reply #2 on:** March 06, 2011, 02:36:01 PM »

I think I can handle this one...

Hosfac · « **Reply #3 on:** March 06, 2011, 02:43:00 PM »

By "under" the original pair, do you mean directly under, or everyone under (i.e. Grandchildren)?

ClayMask · « **Reply #4 on:** March 06, 2011, 02:55:11 PM »

This sounds fun. The only question I've thought of is are there any requirements for moving out other than being a young adult? Looks like you decided not to do the random traits idea.

Saltypaws · « **Reply #5 on:** March 06, 2011, 03:04:38 PM »

Ok, this should be right my alley, lol.

Metropolis Man · « **Reply #6 on:** March 06, 2011, 03:41:45 PM »

Quote from: Schipperke on March 06, 2011, 02:32:49 PM

This sounds very interesting! I predict a very large turnout for this event. One question: are vampires allowed in the family tree?

Oh, wow! Lol. Yeah, that would add just a tad bit of life to mom’s lifespan would’t it? Lol. Thanks, Schip.

Quote from: Hosfac on March 06, 2011, 02:43:00 PM

By "under" the original pair, do you mean directly under, or everyone under (i.e. Grandchildren)?

Ah, I did not consider that. Yeah, once you kick out a Sim they could get married and have a family of their own and all that info would be in the Family Tree. So, it has to be directly under the starting pair — children only. Good question, Hosfac.

Quote from: ClayMask on March 06, 2011, 02:55:11 PM

This sounds fun. The only question I've thought of is are there any requirements for moving out other than being a young adult? Looks like you decided not to do the random traits idea.

Mainly because the Random Wishmaster Quartet was also a popular event last year and I’d like to do it again, so there will be plenty of randomness in that one.

Zylphe · « **Reply #7 on:** March 06, 2011, 03:50:04 PM »

Do the LTWs for each Sim need to be unique?

ClayMask · « **Reply #8 on:** March 06, 2011, 03:53:29 PM »

It seems like you missed my question. Are there any requirements for moving out other than being a young adult?

Metropolis Man · « **Reply #9 on:** March 06, 2011, 03:54:55 PM »

Quote from: Zylphe on March 06, 2011, 03:50:04 PM

Do the LTWs for each Sim need to be unique?

Yeah, good point. I can definitely see a potential exploit if I do not require that. Thank you.

BUT — Sims do not need to achieve a LTW to be moved out. It's the remaining Sims in the household where LTW come into play. I kind of like that a lot. Some interesting strategy going on there in the endgame.

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EDIT: Oops. Sorry ClayMask, I did miss your first question. Answer: No. Children only need to be YA to be moved out.

TheCub · « **Reply #10 on:** March 06, 2011, 04:20:24 PM »

Quote from: Metropolis Man on March 06, 2011, 02:01:41 PM

Anything that has a potential to lengthen the mom’s lifespan — makeovers, eating life fruit, drinking life fruit drinks, getting a tattoo, eating Ambrosia, the Marathon Athletic Challenge — all are banned for the mom.

Does that include trying for baby right before Mom's birthday?

samoht04 · « **Reply #11 on:** March 06, 2011, 04:41:31 PM »

Okay so this looks way better than II in my opinion! I am a bit confused about the LTW thing. Does every LTW completed have to be Unique and can not be done twice or am I just being silly?

Metropolis Man · « **Reply #12 on:** March 06, 2011, 05:26:02 PM »

Quote from: TheCub on March 06, 2011, 04:20:24 PM

Does that include trying for baby right before Mom's birthday?

No. That's allowed.

Quote from: samoht04 on March 06, 2011, 04:41:31 PM

Okay so this looks way better than II in my opinion! I am a bit confused about the LTW thing. Does every LTW completed have to be Unique and can not be done twice or am I just being silly?

LTW do need to be unique, but you only need to concern yourself with them for the remaining Household members at the end of the challenge. Kicked out YA do not need to have LTW completed.

Lilygirl · « **Reply #13 on:** March 06, 2011, 05:45:21 PM »

Quote from: Metropolis Man on March 06, 2011, 05:26:02 PM

LTW do need to be unique, but you only need to concern yourself with them for the remaining Household members at the end of the challenge. Kicked out YA do not need to have LTW completed.

If they do have a completed LTW before moving out does it count as an extra point (2 instead of 1)? I know this has a very slim chance of happening, I guess I'm wondering if it's worth the extra effort and time to complete an "almost done" LTW before moving a YA out.

Metropolis Man · « **Reply #14 on:** March 06, 2011, 06:15:14 PM »

Quote from: lilygirl on March 06, 2011, 05:45:21 PM

If they do have a completed LTW before moving out does it count as an extra point (2 instead of 1)? I know this has a very slim chance of happening, I guess I'm wondering if it's worth the extra effort and time to complete an "almost done" LTW before moving a YA out.

No, it's just one score for each category. So, a kicked out YA earns you 3 points regardless of whether or not they have completed their LTW. One of the things Pam expressed to me about last year's event was she felt there was too much focus on completing LTW and not enough "baby boomer." Gotta keep boss lady happy

. But, it was a valid criticism.

Lilygirl · « **Reply #15 on:** March 06, 2011, 06:35:31 PM »

Sounds fair. I didn't play the Baby Boomer last year so I lack this background knowledge. Thanks, Metro.

MomOfMany · « **Reply #16 on:** March 06, 2011, 07:30:47 PM »

Two questions:
Does the uniqueness of the LTW just pertain to the sims still in the house? Example could we do say the doctor LTW for a sim and then move said sim out and still choose that LTW for a sim still living in the house complete it? So basically does it matter what LTW the sims that will be moving out have?
Next is making the honor roll only a requirement to use the birthday cake? Or do all sims need to meet these whether we use the birthday cake or let them age up on their own?

Metropolis Man · « **Reply #17 on:** March 06, 2011, 07:40:31 PM »

Quote from: momofmany on March 06, 2011, 07:30:47 PM

Two questions:
Does the uniqueness of the LTW just pretain to the sims still in the house? Example could we do say the doctor LTW for a sim and then move said sim out and still choose that LTW for a sim still living in the house complete it? So basically does it matter what LTW the sims that will be moving out have?

All that matters is that the remaining Sims at endgame time have LTW different from each other. The LTW of Sims moved out don't enter the picture at all.

Quote from: momofmany on March 06, 2011, 07:30:47 PM

Next is making the honor roll only a requirement to use the birthday cake? Or do all sims need to meet these whether we use the birthday cake or let them age up on their own?

You can definitely let any Sim age up normally and not have an early birthday via the cake. But, you have to fulfill the listed requirements to use the cake early. And remember, it's not just getting on the Honor Roll — a child needs to be on it for 3 school days.

Alexandria_ · « **Reply #18 on:** March 06, 2011, 09:50:20 PM »

I really can't wait for this one to start

Metropolis Man · « **Reply #19 on:** March 06, 2011, 10:16:48 PM »

Alexandria PM'd me with an interesting question that is resulting in a new restriction, so I'm sharing her question and my response with everyone —

Quote from: Alexandria_ on March 06, 2011, 10:08:51 PM

Hello,

I know all the children have to be fathered by the one sim, but I was wondering if the male sim (the husband) is allowed to move out of the house in the baby boomer challenge?

Thanks, Alexandria.

Interesting question. Yeah, I can see why you'd ask that since it would allow more space for babies. But, it doesn't really seem to jive with what the challenge is all about though which is a strong cohesive family at its core. I'm going to require that the father and mother always live together. Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

Tom

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EDIT: Schip just PM'd me as well seeking a firm answer on vampires. I'm clearly losing my mind because I did edit that when I originally read her post earlier today. Of course, not hitting the Save button after the rules edit always helps too.

bored1 · « **Reply #20 on:** March 06, 2011, 10:56:18 PM »

Do sim children need to have all the goal criteria at the same time? If a sim child has a best friend, gets on the honor roll for 3 days, and in the meantime loses that best friend status, can he/she still be aged up early?

Metropolis Man · « **Reply #21 on:** March 06, 2011, 11:00:31 PM »

Quote from: bored1 on March 06, 2011, 10:56:18 PM

Do sim children need to have all the goal criteria at the same time? If a sim child has a best friend, gets on the honor roll for 3 days, and in the meantime loses that best friend status, can he/she still be aged up early?

Good question. Let me sleep on that and I will answer/clarify tomorrow.

samoht04 · « **Reply #22 on:** March 07, 2011, 01:29:14 AM »

Can the Best Friend become the Romantic Interest?

Twinmum · « **Reply #23 on:** March 07, 2011, 01:37:38 AM »

This one is clearly up Pam's street. I think I'm going to need a LOT of practice for this one. I better go dust off the cots.

Norma

Pam · « **Reply #24 on:** March 07, 2011, 01:40:07 AM »

Yes, I'm looking forward to this one for sure. I really like the way Metro updated it for this tournament season with the focus truly being on having babies.