Baby Boomer III: How Big is Your Family Tree?

[ClayMask]

That is the only thing I can think of for infants is the traits.  If mom can chose both, cake after 24 hours.  If mom can only chose one trait, cake after 48 hours.  If the game choses both traits then no cake for baby.

I like this idea since it doesn't require us to keep accurate times for how long a baby cries or monitor its happiness level at all times.  I haven't tried playing a family on a long lifespan before, but I think a baby is probably a baby for more than three days.  If so, we'd actually be aging them up a few days early.

Edit:  It looks like a sim stays a baby for 7 days on long lifespan.

[ratchie]

Seven days of trying to keep lots and lots of babies happy I think I need a lie down.

Rachel

[Gheez]

Seven days of trying to keep lots and lots of babies happy I think I need a lie down.

Rachel

  I feel the same way, Rachel.  Pam's really enthusiastic about this challenge though, so maybe it is not as bad as we fear?  Or is the secret to play with the volume down so that we don't hear them cry? 

[Teresa]

Yeah cause I play with sound off most of the time so I normally don't know if the baby is crying unless everyone gets the noisy baby bubble so timing how long they have been crying isn't something I will be able to keep track of.

[Saltypaws]

I am not sure about anyone else, it is just about timing, but, I can't say too much more than that, but patience is also a good thing.  I was looking through my menu and all my families have more than 4 sims.  Anyway, I hope everyone has fun with this one.  I played the first two and they were great.

[ratchie]

I still think that getting some time knocked of the baby stage because of choosing traits is the way to go. How about we get to age the baby up after three days if mum gets to pick both traits and after five days if she gets to choose one. If mum has a miserable pregnancy then she has to do the full seven days.
Of course if the powers that be want to make the times earlier then I won't argue.

Edited to ask a question. Do the best friends have to be outside of the family. I am guessing that a child having a full relationship bar with a sibling would not be allowed.

Rachel

[Schipperke]

I've been re-reading the rules and there's something I don't understand.  This example is given:

Your mother hits the Elder stage. It’s now time to stop. Pause the game and open up the Simology tab. Count the total number of Sims right under your original pair. Let’s say it’s 20 and there are 7 Sims in the Household when your mother hits Elder status. So, it’s easy to figure out how many Sims you moved out:

20 - 7 = 13 Sims moved out. 13 X 3 points each = 39 points.

But if there are 7 sims in the household, doesn't that include the original pair?  So the original pair is being counted in the 7 but not in the 20.  If there are 20 sims under the original pair, wouldn't that mean you've actually moved out 20 - 5 = 15 children?  Or am I missing something here?

[Metropolis Man]

How about if mum has a good pregnancy and can pick both the traits for the baby we can age the baby up a day early. I am thinking that having a happy pregnancy will be quite easy the first pregnancy but once those babies start arriving it will get harder.

Rachel

A very solid idea, Rachel. I'll let that simmer in my head for a little while. If I implement it then it will be all or nothing as with the other requirements and stages — there's no partial credit. So, it would be either you get to pick two traits and age the baby up early or you don't. Just like the Toddler skills — you have to learn all 3. So, I'll think about it and what might be an appropriate reward/time savings.

I've been re-reading the rules and there's something I don't understand.  This example is given:

But if there are 7 sims in the household, doesn't that include the original pair?  So the original pair is being counted in the 7 but not in the 20.  If there are 20 sims under the original pair, wouldn't that mean you've actually moved out 20 - 5 = 15 children?  Or am I missing something here?

Schip, in that example I was first just talking about how many had moved out of the house. First you need to figure out the 3-pointer Sims. So, if you count 20 Sims underneath your original pair, and there are 7 members in the house when mom turns Elder, then you have moved out 13.

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EDIT: Schip, you're right!  I flat-lined or something in my example in the rules. I'll reword it.

[ClayMask]

Still seems to me that you've moved out 15 children, since there would be 5 living in the house.  There would also be 2 parents living in the house, to make a total of 7 in the house, and 20 children under the original pair.

[Teresa]

A very solid idea, Rachel. I'll let that simmer in my head for a little while. If I implement it then it will be all or nothing as with the other requirements and stages — there's no partial credit. So, it would be either you get to pick two traits and age the baby up early or you don't. Just like the Toddler skills — you have to learn all 3. So, I'll think about it and what might be an appropriate reward/time savings.

Schip, in that example I was first just talking about how many had moved out of the house. First you need to figure out the 3-pointer Sims. So, if you count 20 Sims underneath your original pair, and there are 7 members in the house when mom turns Elder, then you have moved out 13.

I think the question is this, of the 7 members in the house 2 of which are mom and dad leaving only 5 of the kids still in the house, you actually only moved out 15 kids, assuming there are 20 sims under the original pair.  Do mom and dad get counted in the LTW or are they not part of the scoring in any way.

EDIT, we posted at the same time.

[Metropolis Man]

Okay, thanks, ladies — I just edited my example in the rules. See if it makes sense.

[ClayMask]

Okay, thanks, ladies — I just edited my example in the rules. See if it makes sense.

Looks good to me

[Metropolis Man]

Looks good to me

Super.

Rachel's idea has officially been implemented. Thank you, Rachel. 

[Saltypaws]

The only thing is, the babies only have 3 days anyway to becoming toddler when they are born, so you stated if the mother has a good pregnancy and we get to pick the traits and age them when they are 3 days away from becoming toddler, then basically your having a birthday as soon as they are born, if we pick their traits.  I think that made since, but I hope you get the idea.

[Teresa]

I think Claymask said that on long the babies were infants for 7 days.

Edit:

Edit:  It looks like a sim stays a baby for 7 days on long lifespan.

[Twinmum]

I was just testing this and other things and my new baby on arriving home from hospital has 6 days until aging up.

Norma

[Alexandria_]

The only thing is, the babies only have 3 days anyway to becoming toddler when they are born, so you stated if the mother has a good pregnancy and we get to pick the traits and age them when they are 3 days away from becoming toddler, then basically your having a birthday as soon as they are born, if we pick their traits.  I think that made since, but I hope you get the idea.

That is if you're playing on normal lifespan. The challenges are played on long lifespan.

[Saltypaws]

Ok, I stand corrected.  I was playing on normal and they have 3 days, "long" I believe is 5 or 6 and that is what we do the challenges on.  Guess I should have read the rules again before I posted that.  Sorry about that, will go to the corner now and hush, lol.

[Metropolis Man]

Yeah, as Teresa said, Salty, this challenge (and all Tournament challenges) is played at the Long setting. At the Normal setting, you're right — a Baby's stage is only 3 days.

I was actually debating changing the setting for this event to Normal as I was writing the rule set. But, that would have made for a pretty short event and it may also have been confusing for players to remember to switch back for other events played at Long.

If I had not come up with a way to shorten the stages up with early birthdays though it would have been pretty grueling. Waiting 6 weeks for a Teen to age up to YA? Are you kidding me?

All in all, I think this is will be the best BB yet. I'm excited.  

[Saltypaws]

How long have I been playing this game?  Sheesh.  For some reason, I thought that I was playing on long and I just came from playing my game that had the twins and they only had three days, actually 2, they were born just before midnight and I looked again and it said 2.  I am going to have to make sure I check the length before I play these challenges.  Sorry again.

[Saltypaws]

Yeah, as Teresa said, Salty, this challenge (and all Tournament challenges) is played at the Long setting. At the Normal setting, you're right — a Baby's stage is only 3 days.

I was actually debating changing the setting for this event to Normal as I was writing the rule set. But, that would have made for a pretty short event and it may also have been confusing for players to remember to switch back for other events played at Long.

I remember you saying something to that effect some time ago, that you might do that.  I guess I read the rules when you first posted them and my senile brain just forgot. I am straight now, sort of.

[Metropolis Man]

I am straight now, sort of.

Glad to hear it. Now go play shuffleboard or do something productive where no advice is being administered. Lol.

[Saltypaws]

Ewww, I will get you for that one, you had better run and fast.   

[Twinmum]

If I had not come up with a way to shorten the stages up with early birthdays though it would have been pretty grueling. Waiting 6 weeks for a Teen to age up to YA? Are you kidding me?

Is that 6 weeks on long or maybe epic? I just aged a child up to teen and he has 30 days before aging up (on long)

Norma

[Schipperke]

I went to the Wiki site to check the length of life stages.  Here is what it gave for Long lifespan:  Baby - 6 days; Toddler - 15 days; Child - 15 days; Teen - 30 days; Young Adult and Adult both 45 days.  15 days of toddlers!  Yikes!