Stay Away from this Guy in Egypt!

[RockinRobin]

Remember me telling you all about my sim that had a son with the Special Merchant in Egypt that she didn't know about? That guy had apparently fathered like 5 kids all from different mothers. Well the current sim I'm playing is now in Egypt and he showed up in town. He's not the Special Merchant this time, but I still think he has less than honorable intentions! His name is Sekhmet Hawas.......so beware of him!!

He started walking over to my sim and this is the balloon that came up over his head. It looks as if it's a want to break up a marriage. (even though my sim isn't married)  I had her teleport away from him right away so they couldn't meet. LOL



Here's a better view....I know it's hard to see, but it's definitely broken rings that he's thinking about.

[Swede1992]

I wonder what he's up to...

[jmz95]

He must be the Egyptian playa lol.

[Carl]

Must be a hopeless romantic with commitment issues. Reminds me of my heartbreaker and gold digger. I like this guy I actually had to check the wish list on the wikia to see if there was one to ask x sim to break up with y. It's a social interaction, I know, but I couldn't find a wish to do it on the list. I really thought one of my Sims wanted Nancy Landgraab to leave her husband. Maybe it was just me.

[RockinRobin]

I don't know what he's up to....but he's just creepy in my opinion. LOL I know that sounds silly, but he's always lurking around trying to hook up with the women. I don't like him. 

[Phyrie]

Well, I'll tell you what he's up to...  I noticed my Sims last name changed from St.Parent to Hawas.  Hmmm, no big deal, I thought.  Maybe that was the translation of the French name, I don't know.  So my MARRIED Sim goes home, and she's still called Hawas!  Hmmm, so I have a quick look at her profile.  Erk!  She has an Egyptian SON!!  By this Hawas character!  She didn't go through a pregancy or anything, and I have no idea where my son is, but he's over there somewhere.  Now I wonder if I have to go look for him and take custody!!  Very peculiar....

Phyrie

[RockinRobin]

Phyrie, the EXACT same thing happened to my sim! Problem is, when she went back to Eqypt and found her son, this creepy dude was nowhere to be found...he skipped town. I literally looked everywhere because I wanted her to divorce him! Since she had married that guy, she never got the interaction to marry the guy she was really in love with.

That guy Sekhmet has a hidden agenda for sure! He's out to impregnate and marry all the female sims I think! 

[Phyrie]

How very odd!  Have the developers not addressed this?  As I searched for this topic, I discovered that this same thing has happened a LOT to others!  My Sim is already married to the one she left at home (I find two Sims on vacation too distracting to manage) so I guess she had a bastard out of wedlock?  In real life, the boy would have her husband's name, and would legally be his, since they are married when she had him.  Curiouser and curiouser...

Phyrie

[jmz95]

Just saying as a precaution for all challenge players : If the challenge requires you to go to Egypt, or you go to Egypt for some reason (to get seeds maybe or fish), play as a guy, unless this guy is heterosexual and marries both girls and guys. Then, I'm not sure what to do. That'd be just  creepy

[RockinRobin]

Good advice jmz. It seems that with this guy, all you have to do is meet him to have a child by him. (that's why I wouldn't let my current sim even meet him....LOL)

I would think that the game developers have to be aware of this. How could be there be ONE guy in Egypt who seems to have the ability to marry and impregnate unknowing sims?  I would think there would have to be some sort of special programming to have that happen over and over again. I bet it is some developer's idea of a joke.

[Metropolis Man]

I bet it is some developer's idea of a joke.

Even I don't think it's funny, so that's saying something. I mean all of us spend huge amounts of time with our Sims whether it's just personal games or highly competitive challenges, and to have a monkey wrench thrown in like that would just infuriate me. I'm a control freak. I like to micromanage. It gives me a sense of pride when things are running like a well oiled machine. Oh, my god. If that happened to me I'd go absolutely Braveheart on my computer.

[RockinRobin]

LOL Metro....it DID infuriate me! Especially since it seemed to change the course of her life. (couldn't get married to the one she really loved)  Now that I'm aware of that guy, I just try to have my female sims steer clear of him so they don't suffer the same fate. It's really weird too because it's as if that guy gravitates toward all the female sims. I've played a couple of different female sims since the one that got pregnant by him, and he always seems to want to come over and talk to them and get to know them. Now that I know his intentions, I just try my best to keep my female sims away from him!

ETA: Maybe I should try a test and allow another female sim to meet him and see if she also gets married and pregnant by him.

[Metropolis Man]

I mean if EA wants to humorously create this unique Egyptian love machine guy, great. It's funny. But, the consequences aren't funny if you really take your game seriously and have certain expectations of how you'd like things played out. I mean what the heck? Is this EA's idea of some bizarre immaculate conception and Mr. Homewrecker is the god figure? Crazy. This really should not happen. Yes, there should be some chance and unknowns in the game. That's real life. Getting pregnant by this guy who you never had your Sim Woo Hoo with is not cool. Tsk, tsk, EA.

[RockinRobin]

I totally agree Metro!  I think I will do a test tonight and take one of my other sims to Egypt and let her actually interact with this guy. Nothing fancy or flirty....just basically the same interaction that my other sim had with him....which was cordial but not overly friendly. Then I'll see what happens and see if any kids show up in her friends panel after a few days.

I'll let you all know

[Phyrie]

Looking forward to hearing your report, Robin.  How does one let EA know that we don't find this amusing (if that was their intent...)?

Phyrie

[e^(pi*i)]

They should make it such that polygamy is good in that marriages over borders don't count. This is a serious suggestion; what if someone wanted to play a sim who lives a bunch of different lives in all of these locations?

Maybe they should add a whole criminal aspect to the next expansion and make it so that our sims can forge identities and live two lives, even in the same city. (political career AND crook?!)

That one was a less serious suggestion.

[LivvieLove]

BE WARNED:
there is a guy exactly like that in all locations.
My TEEN sim went there one day and discovered she was the mother of a child. It glitched up my favorite game, (my starter legacy), because at first I felt I should take the child back with me to Riverview. I did but anytime one person interacts with her she freezes up everything and makes it impossible to move.
Now I can't even get rid of her either.
I don't want to kill her either!
So I had to re-start my legacy.

[jmz95]

They should make it such that polygamy is good in that marriages over borders don't count. This is a serious suggestion; what if someone wanted to play a sim who lives a bunch of different lives in all of these locations?

Maybe they should add a whole criminal aspect to the next expansion and make it so that our sims can forge identities and live two lives, even in the same city. (political career AND crook?!)

That one was a less serious suggestion.

This might be pushing it for a "T" rating though. And, since you can't stay for very long in other locations, and the places don't have any real jobs, they'd have to put in a LOT of coding, almost make it like a whole new game, like "Sims 3.5" or something lol.

[RockinRobin]

Well this stinks!  

So I decided to play an existing sim in Riverview, take her to Egypt, and see if she'd wind up with any kids she didn't know about. The sim I was playing is named Tyra Esposito and she lives with Jaime Kent and Barbara Carr and their household is called the "Kraft" family.

Anyway, I played her for a couple of days, built up some skills, traveled to Egypt and she had made enough money to buy her own little house, so I had her buy the house just two doors down which was empty. (next to their house is the Carpenter-Rhodes house and then the next one was empty....a cute little row house)  I liked this sim so I decided to move her out so that maybe I could play her again sometime and I went and played a different family for a day and then went back to check on Tyra to see if she had any kids yet. Come to find out....she is back in the house with Jaime and Barbara and their household has ZERO funds again! What the heck?? She still has the skills she built up and the inventory of stuff she got while in Egypt, but she is now dating Trigger Broke and does not live alone anymore.

I guess when you're playing the EA created sims, they just reset back after you play them...I don't know. Anyway, she didn't have any unknown kids in her friends panel, but I'm wondering if I need to create my own sim to take over there to see if it will happen because apparently, we don't have as much control over the EA sims as we would think.

[RockinRobin]

By the way.....I meant to tell you all this in my last post, but I suppose it deserves its own post. Regarding the Hawas family in Egypt....where the "dirty old man" lives......I decided to package up that household....(house and all its members) and save it to the library so I could place them in Riverview and play them. I wanted to see if there was anything out of the ordinary with that Sekhmet Hawas. I really didn't find anything too weird about him. His traits are light sleeper, angler, schmoozer, never nude, and absent minded. The only people who showed up as "family" in his friend's panel were the people he was living with. (son, Sopdu, daughter-in-law Nepthy, two granddaughters Meret and Shermine, and grandson Geb) The skills that he has built up were the fishing and handiness....but they were not maxed out.

So I took old Sekhmet out in Riverview and he does seem to befriend other sims pretty quickly...I guess because of his schmoozer trait. I haven't checked the other families yet to see if he's managed to reproduce with any of those sims yet....but I'll check. He has a girlfriend now, who I can NOT find in Riverview anywhere!!  He's going steady with her and he can call her but I can't find where she lives. I followed her yesterday to see if I could figure out where she lives, but she was going to work and she works at the Stadium. So I can't check her to see if she's had a baby by him or not. (her name is Shana Natcher....anyone know where she lives in Riverview?)

Anyway, playing the Hawas family has been fun. I like Nepthy and Sopdu and their kids! LOL Nepthy has a LTW of being surrounded by family and has since had another set of twins (boys) while I was playing them. So they have a total of 5 kids now. I had Geb grow up and move out because they were running out of room. 

[kat]

So I can't check her to see if she's had a baby by him or not.

If you go to Sekhmet's 'profile' page while you are playing him (where it has his aging bar), you can click on his family tree button and that will tell you who all of his children are and who their mothers are. 

[RockinRobin]

Oh yeah....I knew that.   

[Kilgore Trout]

Bah, this just happened to me. My character Henry Jones was exploring Egypt and of course came into contact with this family. I then started getting notices referring to Henry Kamel. I checked my profile page and, lo and behold, I had been renamed to Henry Kamel and had also gathered a daughter (child, not toddler).

Luckily Henry is a single sim, so this was largely rectified by a trip to the city hall as soon as I got back and changed his name back to Jones (after all, the plan is for him to spawn young Indiana at some point  ).

Whilst still in Egypt I visited the child in question and after introducing myself (!), the first thing she did was complain about being hungry. So I'm now putting this down as Henry taking pity on a poor Egyptian family and 'adopting' the child.

As such, I can just about live with this, but I can see that this would be really annoying to a sim further along its life plan or with an already-existing family.

Oh, and "hello forum" Been lurking for a while, and this is a great resource.

[Pam]

This is really turning out to be a major bug! There are similar complaints on the official Sims 3 forum, so I'm sure EA is aware of the problem, and hopefully working on a patch.

[The Illuminator]

This is really turning out to be a major bug! There are similar complaints on the official Sims 3 forum, so I'm sure EA is aware of the problem, and hopefully working on a patch.

Are you sure EA did not want it to be like this and add a little spice to your traveller's live?

[HelenP]

I don't know, Illuminator, it all seems a bit extreme to me  .  If it was intended it seems to have back-fired, it looks like too many players are upset by it.

[Metropolis Man]

Are you sure EA did not want it to be like this and add a little spice to your traveller's live?

Absolutely not. No way. This Egyptian guy is a game wrecker. To be honest I'm scared to death of the Surrounded by Family challenge I'm throwing together in a month where family members will be required to "mix it up" with foreigners. It could be devastating in a tourney situation if things happened that are completely unplanned. Having a nectar machine break down is one thing. Returning to Sunset Valley and finding out you've had some immaculate conception is another! It's so much of a concern to me for that particular event that I honestly think I'll have to delay it until this is addressed by EA.

[The Illuminator]

Metro, I guess you're right. I hope EA will repair this soon...

[Metropolis Man]

I never frequent the official EA forums. Does anyone know if there's a bonafide list of bugs that are due to be fixed somewhere at that site? I'd like to keep tabs on this issue.

[RockinRobin]

Yeah Metro, it could definitely throw a monkey wrench into a challenge if sims are running around having extra kids show up just because they meet this guy. I haven't yet had it happen in France or China......so I can't really speak to those places. But someone on here said there's a guy like this in every location? That's a scary thought! Do we have an identity on those guys yet so I can be sure to stay away from them?

[Swede1992]

Where is the police in all this!?

[Metropolis Man]

Just for kicks I fired up a new game with the idea of meeting this guy face to face, or possibly in the case of the woman I created — body to body. I created a woman, friendly, charismatic, family oriented, hopeless romantic, the whole nine yards — no one would be able to resist this woman. She was on the phone and in Egypt quickly. I tracked down the Hawas family and made a beeline for Sekhmet. Within 3 hours of meeting this guy Socials for going steady became available. And I later learned that he's an Elder. That's kind of creepy. Well, long story short, there was no shortage of Woo Hoo for Sekhmet. My character actually proposed to him and they married and traveled back to Sunset Valley. But, no immaculate conception. I don't know what to say at this point. I never did "try for baby" obviously because that wouldn't prove anything if she got pregnant.

[TGBlank]

Metro, the bug is not about wohoo/marrying and bringing the guy home. The bug is about saying hi, coming back home, and finding out your sim magically procreated and married without your knowledge.
I think i saw something like this over maty, lemme see if i can dig it out.

[Metropolis Man]

Yeah, be specific about what the bug really is and I'll try and reproduce it (no pun intended).

[RockinRobin]

Yeah Metro....when it happened to my sim, she had only met him and had brief conversations. He was the Special Merchant during that particular game and so she did buy things from him. She went about her business, went home, went back to Egypt at a later date and found out that she was married to him and had a son by him.

[TGBlank]

Digging in maty it seems to be a known EA bug, it's also somewhat random, as loading from before the trip and repeating the trip can magically fix it.

So.. if you ever make your sim travel, save before traveling and check that none of your skills or family trees or anything got borked on the town transition.

[TheLostGirls]

It happened to me too! Never going back to Egypt NEVER!

I had WA for all of two days...

{Kicks Sekhmat Hawas with my mastered Martial Arts Sim}

[bshag]

I have seen this guy also in Egypt and he wasn't a merchant, thank heavens.

I think there is a bug like this in every location.  My little guy had a friend in China, the elderly lady, something Yat Sen.  When he went back to China, upon arrival his mood bar dropped to red from "Witnessing Death" and had 2 day bad moodlet.  Funny thing is, his name immediately changed to Gabriel Yat Sen and he has a daughter, youth, in his relationship panel.   That's just too lame!  Basically I just ignored it kept him busy with tomb exploration until he could get home and then I did a name change.  I just ignored the "daughter" tag in the relationship panel cause he is definitely not the father!

What really steamed me was, in his family tree, it shows her picture as being married to him with the daughter as spawned by them, but the old lady's picture isn't greyed out, like she is still alive.   This really boinked up his family tree.  Now it's going to be messed up for when he truly finds a wife and starts a family.

Yeah Metro, there's a "bug list" on sims 3 site under the WA section, right at the beginning of the section.  It's about a bazillion pages long.

[TGBlank]

I have seen this guy also in Egypt and he wasn't a merchant, thank heavens.

I think there is a bug like this in every location.  My little guy had a friend in China, the elderly lady, something Yat Sen.  When he went back to China, upon arrival his mood bar dropped to red from "Witnessing Death" and had 2 day bad moodlet.  Funny thing is, his name immediately changed to Gabriel Yat Sen and he has a daughter, youth, in his relationship panel.   That's just too lame!  Basically I just ignored it kept him busy with tomb exploration until he could get home and then I did a name change.  I just ignored the "daughter" tag in the relationship panel cause he is definitely not the father!

What really steamed me was, in his family tree, it shows her picture as being married to him with the daughter as spawned by them, but the old lady's picture isn't greyed out, like she is still alive.   This really boinked up his family tree.  Now it's going to be messed up for when he truly finds a wife and starts a family.

Yeah Metro, there's a "bug list" on sims 3 site under the WA section, right at the beginning of the section.  It's about a bazillion pages long.

Recommendation: save before traveling to any of the wa locations, if your sim is ninja-married and turned into dad/mother, load your save before the travel and try again. It is a known WA bug that happens when transferring the sim from home to the vacation location.

[TheLostGirls]

If this is EA's idea of a joke...

[purplepanther101]

omygoodness the same thing happened to me, only it was with this Ai Pei dude in China. I wasn't even good friends with him, but, lo and behold, when i look at my family tree, there's some random chinese kid off to the side! 

[AriaGirl77]

Apparently this can happen with any foreigner.  My female sim recently just discovered a daughter she never knew about, but the father was some other dude that hasn't been mentioned yet here and whom she never woo hoo'd with.

[TheLostGirls]

I hate this bug. It might have ruined one of my legacies.

[bshag]

Yeah TGBlank, I usually save before a vacation but unfortunately this time I didn't.  I never had this happen before, so I must have thought in the back of my mind, not gonna happen to me.   Lesson learned!  

[Saltypaws]

Ok, instead of going on vacation, I invited a romantic interest to visit my girl.  He never did stay the night, but, she ended up getting pregnant and they never did anything while he was there, because I was not ready to have any more  babies, it sort of messed things up.  He was the merchant in France, Albert Fouchier.  I had not had any problem with him in regards with unknown children, so I thought it might be safe to have him visit, boy was I wrong.  So, I guess it works both ways, immaculate conception of the weird kind, LOL.  I, myself have a few unknown kids and had to change her name back.  I have one in Egypt and China, so I guess that left France.  So be careful inviting foreigners.

[Pam]

Did they woohoo without trying for a baby?

[Saltypaws]

Nope, that is the strange thing about the whole thing, the option never came up to woohoo even, and she didn't get pregnant until three days after he left.  Well, I can say this, never a dull moment with this game.  If that is the worst that can happen, I will take getting pregnant over crashes any day.  I looked in the babies family tree, seems this guy has been busy at home too, I think he 5 other kids in France and no wife, go figure.

[Metropolis Man]

Pam (and all other challenge players), with this new information from Saltypaws I am seriously considering completely changing the format of the Surrounded by Family challenge. Even if an unfortunate mishap happens to only one or two players it's completely unfair to those that escape unplanned pregnancies. It just might be safer to keep it similar like the original Baby Boomer until EA can finally address these magical pregnancies and fix it once and for all. I really like the idea of the mixed heritage theme of Surrounded by Family, but this bug is just too scary and could be devastating in a challenge.

[Saltypaws]

I usually plan for pregnancies, but this really threw me.  So I guess it is safe to say, no visitors either, at least if you do not want to get pregnant.  I usually don't do this, but I just aged this one up to adult and am going to have the guy move out, and boy, he is the spitting image of his dad, so that makes it easier.

[Grandpa Muleskinner]

Sekhmet Hawas

He is evil and must be destroyed! 

[Metropolis Man]

Grandpa, you know your hat would actually coordinate with Sekhmet's outfit nicely. You know, in an Egyptian kind of way.

[Grandpa Muleskinner]

Grandpa, you know your hat would actually coordinate with Sekhmet's outfit nicely. You know, in an Egyptian kind of way.

LOL That's funny! If that rascal messes with my hat, I just might have to skin that mule. 

p.s. You tryin' to get my goat MetroMan? 

[Pam]

p.s. You tryin' to get my goat MetroMan? 

Never let them know where you keep your goat!

[bshag]

 

[Simstar3]

Grandpa, you know your hat would actually coordinate with Sekhmet's outfit nicely. You know, in an Egyptian kind of way.

What hat?

[Pam]

It was the hat on Grandpa Muleskinner's Sim avatar.

[Happytime]

 ... but now the hat's invisible, because Grandpa Muleskinner's avatar's invisible, SimStar3!

I really didn't realize the bugs in World Adventures went this deep. It's almost enough for me to fire up a Sim and go check up on Sekhmet Hawas, does anyone know if this behavior's been fixed?

  -- Happytime

[AriaGirl77]

According to the Dynasty thread this bug is still alive and well.  It can strike for any single sim who is teen or older, to any gender.  This is due to the way Foreign sims propagate themselves.  They do not have to have a romantic relationship in order to have a child, and when your sim meets them they can instantly spawn a baby (except that they don't have babies, they just pop out full grown children, no pregnancy necessary).

The only way to avoid this bug is to avoid traveling with your single sims.  If they are married then for some reason it won't happen, but if they're single... WATCH OUT!

[Bde1225]

I had magical kids in China, Eygpt, and France! I have the story in the share thread. I was mad, I already had 4 kids and 2 men living with me, so I could not be a mother to all the kids. It totally messed up my game.

[Lilygirl]

Me too. My married female Sim had a child in France with Francois Lambert, after meeting the guy's daughter, Jeannine. She never even met Francois! During the next trip to France the game marries her to him even though she went on the trip with her husband. That must have been a really awkward conversation!