Author Topic: Hidden Traits Revealed (Read 14340 times)

Leto85 · « **on:** July 25, 2011, 03:50:33 AM »

Hidden Traits Revealed

I was searching for ages (okey, simdays) to find a way to reveal the hidden traits of a sim. Normally you could only see if your sim has one by making the sim doing the interaction that belongs to the trait, such as sneaking somewhere for sims with the burglar hidden trait.
But now, with Generations there is a much easier way to see the hidden traits of a sim.

1 Turn on the cheat: Testingcheatsenabled true.
2 Than Shift+Click the sim with a hidden trait.
3 Choose the option: Edit Sim in Create a Sim.
4 Change the age of the sim: Toddler, Child, Teen, Young Adult, Adult or Elder.
5 A popup on the right side of the screen will give the following information: Younger Sims cannot select as many traits. The following traits have been removed:' followed by a selection of traits, hidden traits and Lifetime Rewards that has been removed from your sim.
Click the X button to go back to your sim without having a trait removed.

In the image below you can see that the game makes no difference between what we call as either Traits, Hidden Traits or Lifetime Rewards.

In the image below I have shown a sim who do have the three hidden traits from all foreign countries that came with World Adventures: Chinese, Egyptian and French. She does eat with chopsticks mostly and she can sing two songs from China and two from Egypt. Though, the game doesn't seem to calculate foreign hidden traits as hidden traits as you can see in the following picture:

EDIT: 28-10-2011. This doesn't work anymore after installing Pets.

pallyndrome · « **Reply #1 on:** July 25, 2011, 03:58:55 AM »

This sounds cool Leto, but both of those images are too small to read the writing. Can you zoom it in for me?

Leto85 · « **Reply #2 on:** July 25, 2011, 06:46:42 AM »

Quote from: pallyndrome on July 25, 2011, 03:58:55 AM

This sounds cool Leto, but both of those images are too small to read the writing. Can you zoom it in for me?

How can I zoom in?

pallyndrome · « **Reply #3 on:** July 25, 2011, 07:43:46 AM »

hmmm well I would do it with a program like photoshop, but that's a little difficult.
If I squint I can make out a few words or lines now that I concentrate extra hard, so don't worry too much about it unless others come up with a better way of zooming in

Leto85 · « **Reply #4 on:** July 25, 2011, 07:54:05 AM »

Quote from: pallyndrome on July 25, 2011, 07:43:46 AM

hmmm well I would do it with a program like photoshop, but that's a little difficult.
If I squint I can make out a few words or lines now that I concentrate extra hard, so don't worry too much about it unless others come up with a better way of zooming in

Ah yes, of course I could (and did) use Photoshop. I've already changed it Pallyn and added it to the first topic so it looks like you didn't read it well before you've posted.

(hehe)
I thought you mean zooming in within the forum.

jessiethedog · « **Reply #5 on:** July 25, 2011, 08:21:02 AM »

Wow, that's quite the multiskilled sim! Very interesting, Leto!

kiko94 · « **Reply #6 on:** July 25, 2011, 11:44:08 AM »

thanks for the info leto

VampirePlasma · « **Reply #7 on:** July 25, 2011, 11:49:47 AM »

My sim has the Rocker trait apparently, she is always playing air guitar. That might be a good way of checking if she does.

samoht04 · « **Reply #8 on:** July 25, 2011, 01:06:51 PM »

I just saw this in my game as well. Although I was suprised. I was getting a YA Copy of an Elder from another Household in my Legacy Save File, she was related to the main bloodline, so when it said 'Makes no Messes' has been removed I was suprised because I had exported the main family to a new Save File and lost the original Maid so it carried on through the save files.

CarlosLordofTacos · « **Reply #9 on:** July 25, 2011, 01:33:35 PM »

Leto, you genius!

VampirePlasma · « **Reply #10 on:** July 25, 2011, 01:56:36 PM »

Hah, yeah she has the rocker trait! Thanks Leto!

TheChronicR · « **Reply #11 on:** July 25, 2011, 02:10:27 PM »

Totally correct and very neatly done with zooming in, Leto! Cool way to find out what traits your Sim does, or doesn't have.

Leto85 · « **Reply #12 on:** July 25, 2011, 04:57:51 PM »

Thanks for the compliments guys. I'm glad you all could use this topic.

I will make it sticky for a while to let as much people see this as possible. I know a lot of you can use this.

Widonja · « **Reply #13 on:** July 28, 2011, 04:17:57 PM »

I never understood these hidden traits... can you get them with a certain action? Is a sim already born with them? If I age up my toddler up to elder and then back to toddler, will I get the hidden traits, he will get? Can you explain hidden traits for me? :$ sorry, never understood them

samoht04 · « **Reply #14 on:** July 28, 2011, 04:42:46 PM »

A hidden trait is unlocked normally through an NPC. So an NPC Fireman, the ones from the phone, if your Sim was to marry and reproduce with said NPC Fireman the Child has the chance of inheriting one of the Hidden Traits (A Bonus Trait that is hidden), Pyromaniac (Can cause flames to flare but not actually start a fire) or Immune to Fire (Never dies in Fire). Hidden traits have to be inherited. A Maid gives the trait, Makes no Messes, which is really usefull.

Here is the Link to the Guide Page on Hidden Traits.

Widonja · « **Reply #15 on:** July 28, 2011, 04:47:55 PM »

Thanks... So my starting sim can't have any hidden traits?

I was hoping for my little Apollo to be a rockstar ;(

Leto85 · « **Reply #16 on:** July 28, 2011, 04:51:59 PM »

Another thing that comes with children of firefighters is the fact they appreciate the warmth of fireplaces more. Where normal sims will get a +20 moodlet, those heat maniacs like it with +40.

Widonja · « **Reply #17 on:** July 28, 2011, 04:53:55 PM »

Wow! That really helps those who work from home! Give them a fire place, an incent (or how do you spell the smelly thing from egypt or paris), and hates the outdoors trait and you don't need to ever leave

Leto85 · « **Reply #18 on:** July 28, 2011, 04:55:49 PM »

Quote from: Widonja on July 28, 2011, 04:47:55 PM

Thanks... So my starting sim can't have any hidden traits?

I was hoping for my little Apollo to be a rockstar ;(

Nop, that's not for starter sims. But you can make your next generation be a rocker. Just bring your sim up to level 10 in the music career (and to be sure, do the same with his wife) and start breeding.
I'm writing a story about it which you could learn from. Every chapter starts with a new generation that have more hidden traits than the previous one. Check it out here: http://www.carls-sims-3-guide.com/forum/index.php?topic=5657.0

@Widonja: I don't think it will work with those foreign country candles.

Widonja · « **Reply #19 on:** July 28, 2011, 05:35:10 PM »

Ooooh, now I get it! That's a bummer, I thought you can be just randomly born with one! And yes, I've seen your story, just didn't take the time to read it carefully... Now, that I see it, I will follow it

Carl · « **Reply #20 on:** July 31, 2011, 09:03:08 AM »

I put a link to these instructions into the hidden traits section of the guide

Leto85 · « **Reply #21 on:** August 05, 2011, 06:00:10 AM »

Quote from: Carl on July 31, 2011, 09:03:08 AM

I put a link to these instructions into the hidden traits section of the guide

Linky linky here, please?

Widonja · « **Reply #22 on:** August 05, 2011, 06:09:23 AM »

Here you go, leto

MissPlumbBob · « **Reply #23 on:** August 08, 2011, 12:07:27 AM »

Awesomeness!

MoMoll · « **Reply #24 on:** August 08, 2011, 11:57:28 AM »

Leto! You're the best!

MissPlumbBob · « **Reply #25 on:** August 08, 2011, 02:27:37 PM »

Are you utilizing this in your Supersim story?

Leto85 · « **Reply #26 on:** August 15, 2011, 04:52:15 AM »

Quote from: MissPlumbBob on August 08, 2011, 02:27:37 PM

Are you utilizing this in your Supersim story?

In part two of the story (in the making) there will more be explained about it.

Leto85 · « **Reply #27 on:** October 28, 2011, 04:54:44 PM »

Update: This way of revealing Hidden Traits doesn't seem to work anymore after installing Pets.

Chuckles_82 · « **Reply #28 on:** October 28, 2011, 08:03:11 PM »

Is there a sim package editor program that you can see hidden traits in?

Leto85 · « **Reply #29 on:** October 28, 2011, 08:09:36 PM »

Quote from: Chuckles_82 on October 28, 2011, 08:03:11 PM

Is there a sim package editor program that you can see hidden traits in?

What do you mean? I've never heard of such a program.

Chuckles_82 · « **Reply #30 on:** October 28, 2011, 08:18:25 PM »

There was one for sims 2, and you could open any package file and clone it, and then adjust things like price, environment score etc. It was also how you could recolour things for sims 2. You had to open them in the package editor (PE) and then export the images, and use something like photoshop. I don't know what the ones for sims 3 are like - they all look too complicated to me. I mostly only used it for sims 2 to recolour things (and make some replacement colours too for a medival theme).

Leto85 · « **Reply #31 on:** October 28, 2011, 08:22:12 PM »

Quote from: Chuckles_82 on October 28, 2011, 08:18:25 PM

There was one for sims 2, and you could open any package file and clone it, and then adjust things like price, environment score etc. It was also how you could recolour things for sims 2. You had to open them in the package editor (PE) and then export the images, and use something like photoshop. I don't know what the ones for sims 3 are like - they all look too complicated to me. I mostly only used it for sims 2 to recolour things (and make some replacement colours too for a medival theme).

Perhaps that's possible, but programs that may support that are mods and therefore not discussable here.
Unless you mean something else. You can pm me if you have doubts.

ratchie · « **Reply #32 on:** November 20, 2011, 06:51:55 PM »

Today I was playing and my family had a baby. The game informed me that the baby was born with the pyromaniac trait. I have never noticed the game telling me when a baby has a hidden trait before. Also could the pyro trait come from her dare devil father.

Rachel

Leto85 · « **Reply #33 on:** November 21, 2011, 01:21:24 AM »

Quote from: ratchie on November 20, 2011, 06:51:55 PM

Today I was playing and my family had a baby. The game informed me that the baby was born with the pyromaniac trait. I have never noticed the game telling me when a baby has a hidden trait before. Also could the pyro trait come from her dare devil father.

Rachel

Interesting. Mayby it's something new for the latest patch or something to inform the gamer about a Duma charasterstics hidden underneath.
Could you kept me informed about future knowledge about more possible findings according to this?

Hunnington · « **Reply #34 on:** January 18, 2012, 07:35:19 PM »

That's cool but how do you get hidden traits?

Galena · « **Reply #35 on:** January 21, 2012, 10:40:36 PM »

You get then by having children with Npcs, like the maid or policeperson.

Part of Carl's guide explains it in more detail. It is at the bottom of the page. Here's the link http://www.carls-sims-3-guide.com/traits/.

ratchie · « **Reply #36 on:** February 20, 2012, 08:43:33 AM »

Leto,I have a question. I had my decadynasty heir reach level ten in the fire Fighter career so that she is immune to fire will her heir and subsequent descendants also have the immune to fire trait.

The plan is that I won't loose any heirs accidentally to a firey death.

Rachel

Branr · « **Reply #37 on:** March 13, 2012, 02:41:14 PM »

I spotted one of my sims having a new hidden trait, labeled as DNT. Anyone have any idea what this stands for?

Leto85 · « **Reply #38 on:** March 13, 2012, 02:51:47 PM »

Quote from: ratchie on February 20, 2012, 08:43:33 AM

Leto,I have a question. I had my decadynasty heir reach level ten in the fire Fighter career so that she is immune to fire will her heir and subsequent descendants also have the immune to fire trait.

The plan is that I won't loose any heirs accidentally to a firey death.

Rachel

Dear Rachel, what exactly is your question?

@Branr: I've never heard of it. Have you find any things that particular Sim can do others don't?

Branr · « **Reply #39 on:** March 13, 2012, 03:09:00 PM »

Quote from: Leto85 on March 13, 2012, 02:51:47 PM

@Branr: I've never heard of it. Have you find any things that particular Sim can do others don't?

My sim is currently in the music career (symphonic), the only out-of-the-ordinary thing she has done is ask the genie to make her beautiful. I have read in other threads where no one saw any change in the sim that received that particular wish, and I am wondering if this hidden trait might be the reward, and wondered what it does.

Leto85 · « **Reply #40 on:** March 13, 2012, 04:48:05 PM »

Quote from: Branr on March 13, 2012, 03:09:00 PM

My sim is currently in the music career (symphonic), the only out-of-the-ordinary thing she has done is ask the genie to make her beautiful. I have read in other threads where no one saw any change in the sim that received that particular wish, and I am wondering if this hidden trait might be the reward, and wondered what it does.

I really have no idea. Wish I would though. So all my hope is on you now.

Perhaps you will find it out in time, who knows, or someone else will get the same hidden trait and can learn you a thing or two.

Odie · « **Reply #41 on:** March 24, 2012, 08:18:09 PM »

Hi,

Very interesting these hidden traits!
I was going to have my sim marry an fireman who is not an NPC, but now I am thinking of trying to let her marry an NPC

Quote from: Branr on March 13, 2012, 02:41:14 PM

I spotted one of my sims having a new hidden trait, labeled as DNT. Anyone have any idea what this stands for?

I found this on The Sims Wiki:
Hidden traits Labeled "DNT" come with The Sims 3: Showtime. Sim can't get the that traits except using 3rd party mod. Those hidden traits don't have any effect to sims.
Don't understand what "using 3rd party mod" means though... but maybe you do?

Seabody · « **Reply #42 on:** March 25, 2012, 01:37:39 AM »

Quote from: Odie on March 24, 2012, 08:18:09 PM

Don't understand what "using 3rd party mod" means though... but maybe you do?

"Using 3rd party mod" means utilizing a .package file to alter game coding in a way in which to fix glitches, add new functionality, or both. Example: twallan's Traveler Mod is both, it enables you to see what causes a vacation to fail, and it allows any world to be used as a Vacation World.
So in this sense, it means using a Mod like MasterController to unlock the trait.

judewright · « **Reply #43 on:** March 25, 2012, 02:13:23 AM »

Quote from: Seabody on March 25, 2012, 01:37:39 AM

"Using 3rd party mod" means utilizing a .package file to alter game coding in a way in which to fix glitches, add new functionality, or both. Example: twallan's Traveler Mod is both, it enables you to see what causes a vacation to fail, and it allows any world to be used as a Vacation World.
So in this sense, it means using a Mod like MasterController to unlock the trait.

Do mean we could go to Riverview or Lunar Lakes on vacation? That would be cool.

Leto85 · « **Reply #44 on:** March 25, 2012, 06:14:08 AM »

Quote from: Odie on March 24, 2012, 08:18:09 PM

Hi,

Very interesting these hidden traits!
I was going to have my sim marry an fireman who is not an NPC, but now I am thinking of trying to let her marry an NPC

I found this on The Sims Wiki:
Hidden traits Labeled "DNT" come with The Sims 3: Showtime. Sim can't get the that traits except using 3rd party mod. Those hidden traits don't have any effect to sims.
Don't understand what "using 3rd party mod" means though... but maybe you do?

Hi and welcome to the forum.
I now wonder which hidden traits Sims Wiki was revering too.
And if they can not be added to a sim, why are they in the game? Npc only? Perhaps through breeding, perhaps not. First I like to know what those hidden traits do.

Odie · « **Reply #45 on:** March 25, 2012, 07:36:50 AM »

Quote from: Leto85 on March 25, 2012, 06:14:08 AM

Hi and welcome to the forum.
I now wonder which hidden traits Sims Wiki was revering too.
And if they can not be added to a sim, why are they in the game? Npc only? Perhaps through breeding, perhaps not. First I like to know what those hidden traits do.

Thanks.
I was actually wondering the same thing when I went over my message again... Why would there be hidden traits labeled that do not have any effect? What's the point?
Honestly, I don't know. This was literally what I found. I would love to know more, just like you

Seabody · « **Reply #46 on:** March 25, 2012, 10:56:02 PM »

Quote from: judewright on March 25, 2012, 02:13:23 AM

Do mean we could go to Riverview or Lunar Lakes on vacation? That would be cool.

Exactly. I have all towns except for LL and HS, as well as a custom town (and UC as well!). This means I could travel to any of them on vacation. I haven't tested it yet, as I downloaded it yesterday and haven't had time to play Sims since then.

Leto85 · « **Reply #47 on:** March 26, 2012, 03:43:09 PM »

Quote from: Seabody on March 25, 2012, 10:56:02 PM

Exactly. I have all towns except for LL and HS, as well as a custom town (and UC as well!). This means I could travel to any of them on vacation. I haven't tested it yet, as I downloaded it yesterday and haven't had time to play Sims since then.

Although that is interesting information you got there, it also is slightly offtopic. Perhaps you would like to start a new topic about this subject, in the mod section.

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